{"id":17201,"date":"2004-10-02T19:50:00","date_gmt":"2004-10-02T17:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/?p=17201"},"modified":"2023-10-06T13:19:35","modified_gmt":"2023-10-06T11:19:35","slug":"trouvaille-16-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/?p=17201","title":{"rendered":"Trouvaille 16.05"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trouv\u00e9 dans le champ d&rsquo;un ami normand du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de Caen,et envoy\u00e9 \u00e0 des fins d&rsquo;identification.. Ren\u00e9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bon c\u2019est gentil Ren\u00e9, mais\u00a0 on a vu des monnaies en meilleurs \u00e9tat que celle- ci \u2026. Alors\u00a0 votre demi- monnaie a l\u2019air d\u2019origine fran\u00e7aise si j\u2019en juge par les fleurs de lys\u00a0 et peut ressembler \u00e0 un tournois du XIV\u00b0 si\u00e8cle. Qu\u2019avons- nous comme indice\u00a0? pas de l\u00e9gende en tout cas , juste le type de croix un peu particulier ( croix double fleurdelis\u00e9e avec quatre anneaux au centre et le tout dans un quadrilobe.) A l\u2019avers on imagine trois fleurs de lis\u00a0 dans un \u00e9cu.. Cela ressemble un peu aux deniers tournois du d\u00e9but du XV\u00b0 si\u00e8cle, \u00e0 moins que ce ne soit un morceau de jeton de Nuremberg\u2026.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Voici une correction concernant deux identifications. N\u00b0 16.5 page 31 (de Ren\u00e9) Il ne s\u2019agit pas d\u2019un tournoi ou d\u2019un jeton de Nuremberg, mais d\u2019un JETON DE TOURNAI \u00e0 COMPTER les unit\u00e9s, dizaines etc\u2026anc\u00eatre de notre calculette, les jetons \u00e9taient plac\u00e9s sur une bure (anc\u00eatre du bureau) et si rapidement qu\u2019ils \u00e9taient \u00ab\u00a0ject\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0! d\u2019o\u00f9 le verbe JETER et le mot JETON. L\u00e9gende pour ce jeton\u00a0: AVE MARIA GRACIA P (je vous salue marie P(leine) de gr\u00e2ce). (le A et le V lisible seulement) * Jetons employ\u00e9s pour toutes personnes de l\u2019\u00e9poque, a qui on attribuait un pouvoir protecteur\u00a0!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La seconde est une monnaie byzantine , je laisse l\u2019identification aux sp\u00e9cialistes de ce monnayage<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Concernant la monnaie byzantine 16.05 dans votre dernier num\u00e9ro, il s\u2019agit d\u2019un follis anonyme de type A, \u00e9mis sous Jean Ier, Basile II et Constantin VIII, de 975 \u00e0 1028. La l\u00e9gende du revers signifie \u00ab&nbsp;J\u00e9sus Christ roi des rois.&nbsp;\u00bb Cette monnaie est assez courante sur le march\u00e9 (entre 10 et 30 euros, parfois plus), mais rarissime en prospection en France. Il me semble qu\u2019un exemplaire a \u00e9t\u00e9 trouv\u00e9 dans l\u2019Ain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cordialement<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bertrand Ruelle<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"379\" data-id=\"17202\" src=\"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5-1024x379.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-17202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5-1024x379.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5-600x222.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5-300x111.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5-768x284.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5-1536x569.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5.jpg 1582w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5Bis.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" data-id=\"17203\" src=\"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5Bis-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-17203\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5Bis-1024x512.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5Bis-600x300.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5Bis-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5Bis-768x384.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5Bis-1536x768.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/5Bis.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trouv\u00e9 dans le champ d&rsquo;un ami normand du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de Caen,et envoy\u00e9 \u00e0 des fins d&rsquo;identification.. Ren\u00e9 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bon c\u2019est gentil Ren\u00e9, mais\u00a0 on a vu des monnaies en meilleurs \u00e9tat que celle- ci \u2026. Alors\u00a0 votre demi- monnaie a l\u2019air d\u2019origine fran\u00e7aise si j\u2019en juge par les fleurs de lys\u00a0 et peut ressembler \u00e0 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[1515,2580,2581,4322,775,47],"class_list":["post-17201","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-trouvailles","tag-basile-ii","tag-detecteurs-de-metaux","tag-detectoristes","tag-follis-anonyme-type-a","tag-prospecteurs","tag-prospection"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17201","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=17201"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17201\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17289,"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17201\/revisions\/17289"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=17201"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=17201"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monnaiesdetections.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=17201"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}